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Will
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posted 05-24-2005 12:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message
great tips, guys.

gordons
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posted 05-08-2004 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gordons   Click Here to Email gordons     Edit/Delete Message
I have been using the following format but have no way of knowing whether it works except that I have not yet had e-mail on the addresses I use.

<script language=JavaScript>
var name = "firstpart of address@";
document.write("<a href=\"mailto:" + name +"youraddress.com?subject= e-mail title \">displayed comment</a>")
</script>

Is this a good solution?

Gordons

(edited by Moderator)

[This message has been edited by pdbeugeling (edited 05-08-2004).]

ced1106
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posted 05-06-2004 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ced1106     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm. Now, I'm just using the username@NOSPAMcompany.com. Anyone **really** know how well this works? I also just use a free email account that has a good spam filter.


Cedric.
aka. Washu! ^O^

chuckster
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posted 05-06-2004 03:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Slight digression: All of these forums appear to have clear links to many submitters' email addresses in the message headers (or am I missing something?).

DocSteve
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posted 04-07-2004 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DocSteve   Click Here to Email DocSteve     Edit/Delete Message
Hi All,

The fix using a graphic solves the spam problem, but will it create problems for users who are using technologies other than traditional browsers? Screen-readers, for example, need an alt attribute in the tag, which is where a text description of the graphic (i.e., in this case, the e-mail address) would be: if you do that is the bot smart enough to pick it up there (as opposed to being in href attribute of the tag)?

bear
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posted 03-16-2004 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bear   Click Here to Email bear     Edit/Delete Message
Paul I was going to suggest javascript. You can configure javascript to email you from your website and scramble the email addy so the search engins cannot fugure it out.

Or you could try using Boomspeed.com as you internet server. Along with the image hosting account they offer (at no extra cost) an email address (with a fantastic spam blocker), a auction snip program, and lots of tech. support. That way yoy can use the Boomspeed email address on your website and it will filter out all the spam and keep your regular email addy from prying eyes.

Cooperweb
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posted 02-27-2004 10:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message
While CGI works great when server allows it, I am surprised no one has mentioned the javascript solution. Basically by declaring a couple variables, one for your email name and one for your email domain, then constructing the email addy on the page using var1 & "@" & var2 & ".com" kind of thing. Then not only does your email appear (if you want it to, else you could just use it for graphic link) but ppl will be able to activate the mailto link yet bots, spiders, crawlers can't make any sense out of it.
For details google javascript email address.

pdbeugeling
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posted 09-20-2003 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pdbeugeling     Edit/Delete Message
Has anyone tried this

Response-O-Matic

this is my fix, they have reasonably easy to understand intstructions ( but maybe this is due to the fact that I do have some knowledge of this stuff after two years on the PC )

[This message has been edited by pdbeugeling (edited 09-21-2003).]

pitnolen
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posted 09-19-2003 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pitnolen     Edit/Delete Message
I have been using a graphic version of my email addreses(es) for several years, and it certainly works. If the folks can't be bothered to write down your address then the message might not be that important and you can further reduce mail.
HOWEVER for businesses this is not a good idea.
Another way that can be copy&pasted is to enter your address like this -
john dot smith at myisp dot com
The writer only has to edit the address to what is obvious.
I think it is the folks who send multiple messages using 'To' or 'Cc' are the real culprits - PLEASE ALWAYS USE 'Bcc'.

[This message has been edited by pitnolen (edited 09-19-2003).]

shpkiwi
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posted 09-16-2003 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shpkiwi   Click Here to Email shpkiwi     Edit/Delete Message
Good idea using graphics however I guess that means the person has to write the email address down and then enter the address in their email programme.
With popups would they work if the person has a 'popup' blocker on?
If the hosting company supports the use of server side scripting it is fairly simple to set CGIEMAIL up and get it running.

rwengel
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posted 09-16-2003 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rwengel   Click Here to Email rwengel     Edit/Delete Message
I too have had a problem with spam because of "harvesting" by the 'bots.. One thing I do on a couple of sites I deal with is to put a "Click Here for Email addresses" on the page and when that is clicked, it puts a popup window up with all of the appropriate email addreses listed. They are posted as graphics and the popup window also has a a meta tag that should discourage the 'bots. I am looking at the other solutions that have been posted here as I am always looking for better ways to protect my clients (and me too)!

Richard

iangale
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posted 09-15-2003 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iangale   Click Here to Email iangale     Edit/Delete Message
Another way used by a friend is to put the email address in a JPG or GIF that automatic crawlers can't read - this means the humans you DO want to contact you can but machines can't! It also avoids the need of scripts on the server.

shpkiwi
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posted 07-15-2003 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shpkiwi   Click Here to Email shpkiwi     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Paul,

That is a shame and a little surprising. You shoudl go and visit sausagehosting.com and check out their costing and the package they offer which I think is quite good. You should still be able to use forms however with a .pl script which is not that difficult.

Stephen

pdbeugeling
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posted 07-14-2003 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pdbeugeling     Edit/Delete Message
They answered me today.

They do not support any CGI scripting due to performance and security issues....
whatever they may be....

anyway, thanks for the little chat, Stephen....

peanut butter ice cream...Paul

pdbeugeling
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posted 07-11-2003 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pdbeugeling     Edit/Delete Message
MrUser:
Thanks for that tip, I sent in a question to my HOST, on that very subject.

shpkiwi Stephen:

I will take you up on your offer, if I get a positive reply back from my HOST. Either way, THANKS for the trouble.

I will post the HOSTS answer here for you. They said it may take 48 hours.

three blind mice...Paul

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MrUser
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posted 07-11-2003 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrUser   Click Here to Email MrUser     Edit/Delete Message
And of course this only works if your host supports the use of server side scripting. If you have a folder in the root of your web call cgibin(and it was there when you first logged in not added by some program like frontpage)then they most probably do.

shpkiwi
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posted 07-11-2003 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shpkiwi   Click Here to Email shpkiwi     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Paul, Stephen this end.

I am not exactly a techi either but managed to get thru this with one or two and more attempts but finally the light switched on and now not a major problem.

It is easier writing CGIEMAIL than the other PERL scripts our old ISP had

I use wordpad for the script and sausage editor for writing the HTML files.

If you want I can send you over the files we use to look at. If you dont want your email on this post then go to the contact form on http://www.hammond-parker.com and send me a message. http://www.hammond-parker.com/forms/contact.htm

pdbeugeling
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posted 07-11-2003 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pdbeugeling     Edit/Delete Message
I ended up there when I did my search for "cgiemail".

My light is on, it is just a little dim at the moment.

You see, I can not get the very first part. Creating the e-mail template. How do I do that, NOTEPAD ? HTML ?

Oh, and by the way I am ....Paul


[This message has been edited by pdbeugeling (edited 07-11-2003).]

shpkiwi
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posted 07-11-2003 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shpkiwi   Click Here to Email shpkiwi     Edit/Delete Message
The CGIEMAIL script we presently use was suggested by our web hosting company sausagehosting.com however prior to that we simply used perl .pl or .cgi scripts which we also okay but appranently not as secure.

Visit http://web.mit.edu/wwwdev/cgiemail/user.html
for instructions on how to setup your forms etc. That is the page I was referred to and managed to figure out what to do.

If stil a problem drop me an email.

pdbeugeling
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posted 07-11-2003 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pdbeugeling     Edit/Delete Message
Are you saying the script is free, anyone can use it, on any web site?

I have looked for a tutorial for this, but the ones I have found, I do not understand.

I am as sharp as a marble, when it comes to this sort of stuff.

If you could direct me to a tutorial that explains this in easy, step by step , understandable language (not techno computer talk) I would be a happy camper.

shpkiwi
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posted 07-10-2003 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shpkiwi   Click Here to Email shpkiwi     Edit/Delete Message
With the forms you can view on at http://www.abt-travel.com/pop/contact.htm

What we use is a script called CGIEMAIL. It's a freely available script that comes with built in protection for spam abuse. By that I mean that the script is compiled as a binary (not viewable code) and doesn't allow use from any user other than those located on the same server where it resides.

One of the greatest forms of abuse are insecure/poorly written scripts that access the sendmail function.

Hope this helps if nyou want any further info let me know.

pdbeugeling
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posted 07-10-2003 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pdbeugeling     Edit/Delete Message
Good tip:

I could use this on my sites.

Could you give more details on the script and how it is done?

shpkiwi
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posted 07-10-2003 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shpkiwi   Click Here to Email shpkiwi     Edit/Delete Message
I notice that many people will have their email contact details on their web sites. In the past I aso had the email address however as a result of the spam received I now have a image with 'contact us' when clicked on it opens a form that uses cgi (tpl) script to send the forms to me. IT was very easy to set this up and my email address is not displayed on the site therefore is not picked up by the programmes crawling the net for email address to spam to.

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